now that yet another gate-of-comics has reared its fearsome twitterbeak, i’d like to post a 2017.aug.24 discord conversation, anonymized for my friend:

me -
fbi = altright & altleft we are living in a LARP of the man who was thursday

read the summary— this is what our reality is. there is no “there” there

anon -
I’m from a different fight with the same mentality, myself.
See, I used to be game press in the 90s-early 2000s. When it was trying to be respectable enthusiast press. I got out because I noted the transformation of the platform into a soapbox for political salt.
The process is pretty easy to see if you’ve got hindsight on your side. Kids get pumped full of non-reality during their politically formative early adult years. All that strange college curriculum stuff.
Then when they’re in their “adults are stupid, we can fix everything” phase they’re going to soapbox for the utopia they were sold in school.

Fresh out of college journalism major who is into video game stuff ends up working for a site, and they soapbox from in there because they have an audience suddenly.

People tend to hire their friends or at least are biased about your politics in that field, so quickly the place stacks up with SJW mindset. Then instead of a gaming site, you have a propaganda bullhorn for acceptable values.

The devious thing about it is that their audience is also the young people who are forming political opinions but didn’t get dipped in social dogma in college... so it’s the perfect loop. Create zombies in college who go out and convert the rest of the kids because they’ve assumed control of the pop culture soapboxes
it’s a really efficient multiplier of effort

About the time I departed journalism if you can call it that anymore it was the result of a slugging match with the founders of Kotaku. Oddly enough, about 7 years before the word ‘gamergate” had been said the first time.
The problems you guys have today with Reddit moderators gating in other moderators of similar agenda and then throwing a coup vs the established founders... yeah, I had that go on in a pretty popular site that I helped start. So I got a really bad taste for that sort of thing. It was in MY house, and pushing me out.
So.... when that whole gamergate thing blew out, I observed some very interesting things.

me -
by the time gamergate happened it was a bunch of reactionaries raised on porn tropes— anita sarkeesian was right about the way women are depicted in media in general— it isn’t just videogames
weirdly despite all the censorship on reddit i still see some super racist shite

anon -
Initially it was about “why is there a behind the curtain politics between all these “independent” sites that they operate in lock-step on all things?” Well, I knew why, because I was one of the people who started that goddamn mailing list back in 1998.

me -
voat however is halfway to 4chan

anon -
I watched it turn from water cooler talk to “the party line”
But my point...

me -
or og 4chan, not sure diff betw 4chan and inf/8chan w/this
mailing list, listening...

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anon -
What started out as a fight about bad business, bad integrity, favoritism, and just a venting of a lot of corruption pressure in the industry transformed overnight into “scandal soup with identity politics”
Why?
Well, when you’re the press and you’re taking a lot of fire (reference MSM today) then you have to smoke screen with clickbait that will draw the heat off of you as the guilty party and make it about someone else.
So let’s not talk about the part about US, but let’s take our already present soapbox about political correctness and sieze this opportunity to just turn it up to 11 and let it blast.
When the press starts clickbaiting about race, sex, fringe oddities, and other tabloid tried-and-true things, it’s like chumming the water, and all those people with a personal mission of those agendas show up like sharks.
It’s so easy to start a mob. You just talk about something triggering to some people and they come like you’re the pied piper. Then you have a shield of useful idiots to block the accusations against you.
An attack on me is an attack on my mob of idiots. How dare you.

me -
right, like i really had no idea why there was a women’s march this year. i, as a radfem, have no clue except that it must have been some soros bullshit, b/c it def was not grassroots

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anon -
So in one swift move, gamergate was hijacked and turned into a battlefield for alt-left and alt-right when they were formative. It’s almost like it was a dress rehearsal, because I saw the exact goddamn (S.Alinsky) tactics played out note for note in the post-election riot spree

me -
i get it

anon -
Yeah, so it’s interesting you self identify as radfem. I’m a turbo shitlord myself. However, we can get along just fine because I can respect your point of view even if I disagree with certain aspects of it. We’re not ultra-polarized and forced to duel to the death upon sighting each other.
I wasn’t born a shitlord, i became one because I had a super bad encounter with the alt-left before it was called that

me -
right, if we cut the strings, or never had them in the 1st place

anon -
So I wonder how many of the people who are alt-Right are so because they’re just sick of the alt-left having bullied everybody in our culture for a decade or two.

been forever since I read the book but the list of tactics is easy to find
hang on

me -
i was born in 66 and i became a feminist in childhood b/c i wanted to never get pregnant, and the only ppl who knew what i was about were feminists— and that has never changed

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anon -
ok, you and I are from the same era then. You’re 4 years older than me.

me -
my little bro was born in 70 too heh

anon -
So Alinski’s rules for radicals is essentially the playbook of modern discourse in everything today

me -
yeah

anon -
Polarize, make it personal, leave no chance of common ground or compromise, and then execute a character assassination if you can’t defeat the ideas defeat the speaker.

me -

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anon -
This last election was like Alinsky vs Alinski 2016

me -
pretty much
nothing like shit/piss throwing/grave digging to lose your audience

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anon -
What bothers me the most is that when the god damned evidence comes out, everybody forgets within a day. But when it’s manufactured drama, that has year-long staying power.

me -
i have a protest background; that shit is not normal
ppl w/communications degrees are creating the narrative

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anon -
Yeah, I grew up living just south of Kent State. My grandma was the biggest tinfoil hat I’ve ever met... but she was accurate and not a ufo nut sort. She was on the money more than she was wrong.

anon -
Now, remember what I said about the cloud of crazy that showed up to smoke-screen gamergate when it was initially a tangible non-fantasy accusation of malpractice.
If you’re touching the truth, the closer you are, the faster the smoke screen of crazy shows up
Pizzagate

me -
so orig. it was more like accus. of payola?

anon -
yeah, payola and personal favors, and nepotism, and not disclosing stuff

me -
ok

anon -
Ok, like a friend of mine used to be an editor at a game magazine. Then, like many good writers, he got hired to write narrative in games. Then he got a management job in a studio. Because the guy knows the industry, the product, and is really good. Well, now you have a guy running a studio who has years of past in the trenches with the magazine staff. You don’t think they’re going to treat him a little different?
It’s natural. We wouldn’t be human if we didn’t form social contracts.

The problem was that this particular game developer was

me -
old boy network

anon -
1. Female
2. Very trans positive

me -
becomes old girl network

anon -
3. Very promiscuous

me -
trans positive, aka penis positive heh

anon -
now #3 is her business, until one of her bed partners is the person who is putting her business on a pedestal like she’s a superhero and nobody can understand why.

Except then the issue was about “You can’t shame her for her promiscuity!” and we’re like “We don’t care about it, we care about HIM being influenced by it to do business deals.”

me -
this is why companies have disclosure clauses
was she accused of being promiscuous by them like you said it exactly?

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anon -
The sharks circled around defending her from all the internet shitheads. Well, you know no “business scandal” sells like s “sex scandal” so the real issue disappeared and the whole fake controversy exploded

me -
yeah the rape and death threats— how did the trans thing play out?

anon -
all of us who were industry vets facepalmed, got distance from that hashtag, and then went to war trying to pull Gawker and Kinja down by their financial backers

me -
oy kinja just ate a.v.club btw— it was a disaster. talk about foreknowledge

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anon -
So, there’s more to the thing, it turns out
So upon digging, it becomes about MONEY

me -
i’m still here
alway$

anon -
There was a group called “fine young capitalists” who were some gay guys that wanted to raise money on Kickstarter to create a fund that assisted women in getting into game development careers.

me -
that sounds odd

anon -
One of the FYC guys had publicly remarked (much like Milo) that as a gay man, he didn’t like transgenders because it wasn’t about sexuality it was about rejecting your own body parts mentally.

me -
ahhh

anon -
Well, this female developer also had a bit of a porn background, and had several trans friends who were activists. So she called on them, they called the trans militant army, and that crowd descended upon the fundraiser the gay guy was doing and got it killed.

me -
holy shit it never ends

anon -
Somebody posted this drama at 4chan in the video games area, and they got offended that these guys were victimized by other gays for not being gay the right way, so they started their own bank account, raised the money, funded the FYC project themselves, and told the trans activists to choke on it.
that led to a slugging match where the activists then tried to kill 4chan (like that would happen)

me -
hahahah

anon -
So, fast forward about a year... that same chick is at the center of this new issue. Well, 4chan never forgets a grudge, so they showed up to pay her back for “all of that” history

me -
i may have been confused by the they pronoun, but 4chan itself helped fund FYC, is that right?

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anon -
And that’s how you ended up with the trans movement slugging it out with 4chan in the arena of video games.
Correct. 4chan members funded FYC like 300%

me -
hahah

anon -
as purely a “fuck you” move

me -
shit i never heard abt this— not that i know much about it apart from a meme on avc “it’s about ethics in video game journalism”

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anon -
So then a trans male-to-female dev named Brianna Wu (who married her trans activist legal counsel after he helped her sue Denny’s) was made chief martyr because she claimed to have gotten a death threat and told “we’ll kill you if you make a video game!” and she had to of course go into hiding, with very high drama.
Like, drama that would make a drag queen blush

me -
hahahaha

anon -
anyway, it was off the fucking scale
she got herself on MSNBC as a victim of a horrific “anonymous twitter threat!”
from some 13 year old in his mom’s basement 3000 miles away probably. Since his mom wouldn’t give him a ride over there, she was in no danger.
It was knee slapping hilarious until 6 months later and it still hadn’t gone away
Then it was annoying because we really wanted to fix the problem with the SJW cancer that had turned enthusiast press into a soapbox for identity politics and shaming of their audience.
It’s like...

me -
not to derail, but trans really know how to make those threats— you can see the shit these dudes post here

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..there is also the phenom of them claiming falsely that radfems dox them— so your story sounds familiar

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anon -
Say Sports Cars Magazine starts injecting political opinion in their articles about how they think the Tesla cars are oppressive to trans people. And the audience is like “what?”
We’re here to read about cars

me -
and i have seen histrionic ppl of both genders/sexes, often bi for some reason claiming to be doxed— i try to believe most ppl who are being harassed, but the histrionics ping my BS meter

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anon -
NO, you don’t understand. This is important. You can’t like cars because cars are bad to someone who was offended for some reason and couldn’t look away.
So then it becomes the magazine specifically calls out Ford, and says that the 2015 Mustang is a penis shaped hate missile. Ford made it phallic on purpose to promote the male superiority narrative.

me -
hahaha

anon -
And they give the Mustang a 1-star rating, saying that sexism is the only justification they need.
Then some rabid activists go on every car forum in the world and start ranting about the Mustang and repeating that bullshit.

There’s a big meltdown in sales because nobody wants to drive that thing... because it’s a magnet for getting surrounded by a herd of activists. No thanks, I’ll just buy a Hyundai.
So now, Ford has tangible financial impact due to pure bullshit drama manufactured by what started out as ENTHUSIAST PRESS that existed solely to promote cars as a fun thing.
Talk about your loyal doggie getting rabid and spinning around to bite your face suddenly.

me -
in fact that site i linked above— the hypocrisy— whose side do i take? the ones making the death threats? i mean they claimed they were getting murdered, but it turns out statistically overall being a trans woman makes you the least likely to be murdered. the ones getting killed fit into overlapping grps of 1. black, 2.prostitutes 3. poor, not the heft of the vocal community actually making the documented threats, not to mention the actual trans-identified rapists and murderers

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anon -
You know why nobody attacks trans women?
Because she’s a MAN and will beat your ass. Then you have to explain to everybody in jail why a tranny kicked your ass.

😛